Because the game isn't all PvP. Refer to recent CSM minutes where they discuss player retention.
The players that stay the best are those who's early time in the game is PvE. People who get into PvP fast often tend to leave fast.

Affinity referred to some recent detailed research CCP has done which indicates that the players who stick around longest tend to do everything, while pure PvE players tend to churn out of the game.

Which,..... actually supports what I said. That the game isn't all PvP. Nowhere did I say that the game was nothing to do with PvP at all. Just that it isn't all about PvP.

So nerfing highsec destroys an area of the game

You can't make PvP more rewarding or you lead to the issue of farming each other for profit using cheap ships. 'I kill you five times, I can buy six cheap ships, you kill me six times, you can now buy seven cheap ships. and so forth'. Which is why FW kills don't pay out more than they do.

And High Sec income is already in line with low, null & WH income in terms of being lower per account in a normal situation.

Wrong.

It's irrelevant that it's causing unspecified "detrimental effects" (it isn't, but that's neither here nor there) to other people's playstyles. Lots of people's playstyles consist of nothing but causing detrimental effects to others.

At best you could make a case that low/nullsec PVE rewards need to be buffed. Highsec rewards do not need a nerf, especially not because they cause "detrimental effects" (i.e. butthurt) to certain playstyles. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, ISK is presently leaving the economy faster than it enters. Significant nerf to faucets would cause deflationary issues.

Despite CCP continually pointing out that the greatest ISK faucets are null sec anomalies? This is what led to the anomaly nerf of 2011 (announced while FanFest was in full swing).

Is there a reason why people can't just pay their sub and play the game as it is? I swear, CCP Devs must absolutely hate their jobs. All day, every day:

Nerf ganking!
Buff ganking!
Nerf AFK Cloaker *******!
Nerf Drone Assist!
Nerf SuperCapitals!
Nerf Incursions!
Nerf Bastion Modules!
Change Bastion Modules!
******* MTU got me killed - MTU is ******* fail! (MTU for CSM!)
Nerf High Sec!
Nerf Null Sec!
Buff Corpses!

All day long - these poor bastards at CCP put together a pretty ******* awesome game and everyone playing it apparently ******* hates it because they come here on a daily basis to argue about the changes that it absolutely must have or:

Eve will die
I and my 8 accounts will quit
Things will be unbalanced
The sky will fall
Player base will stagnate
New players will leave

Seriously, what kind of sense does that make?

(and don't tell me 50 systems/outposts is a lot. it isn't.)

It's because highsec represents a massive portion of the market itself. Selling stuff there is advantageous inherently because so many people play there -- and thus we get back to the silly fact that it's most efficient to produce things where you intend to sell them.

You shouldn't expect CCP to just wave a magic wand and give you free ships.

All those "free" minerals, right?

Have you ever done industry?

RISK - people who know what are they talking about understand hisec risks as wardecs, gankers, and oh-****-logi-disconnected incursion moments.

Except ol baltec and the other goons who want to cut the income of highsec in half at least..

You know "minor balancing changes".

EDIT : I mean you guys do like having targets in low/null/whs right?

Why do you need more than your expenses?
To play the game probably. Same with us.

I got my first nullsec billion in about 1/4th the time it took me in hisec to do the same, and I were using 40% less accounts to do that.

According to goon math, that means hisec income should be doubled.

Nerfing highsec isn't going to provide that incentive as evidenced by the oh god +8 years of eve. OMG level 5s MAKE TOO MUCH ISK AND IS KEEPING PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO LOW/NULL.. Okay so lets put level 5s in lowsec. OMG NO ONE RUNS level 5s WTF??? Okay a handful of people do but it furthers my point. You can't force people out of highsec by nerfing it. You'll just force people out of the game. The whole reason highsec was implemented in the first place was because of the constant curb stomping that was killing the game. Without highsec eve is a dead game.

If null is having income issues then it's because of the choices of the people who live there.

Terrible misassumption.

People are staying in hisec because hisec is bad, not the other way around.
Every time they try to get out, they meet massively outISKing blobs of nullbears, which they can never face as long as they don't have a cut of the grand nullsec pie, which they cannot get because hisec is unable to be the staging point for that.

I am proposing the drastic solution - BUFF hisec. Now it can serve as a staging points for fleets venturing into low, which can be only fulfilled by having comparable income. So far we're looking at 10% to 25%, which is imo incomparable.

If hisec dwellers will get the means to get out, they will. They're not getting all that ISK to sit on it. It's just they know that the cost of losing their implants would be 30 hours of hisec PvE or 3-8 of nullsec one, and getting jump clones might be a pain for an account which didn't spend 2 years to get into marauder.

So they can afford just 1 expedition per month, and with raised income they could afford maybe 1 per week. You want to limit it to 1 per year?

You can.

Tell me more stories about how awful of a player you are, and how you can't make ISK in nullsec.

Wait what about war decs and ganks?????

Oh, listen to yourself. "Stay in hisec, you should just never be able to go nullsec, that would be fine for me".


Blue donut is so much more untouchable than any of the limited places you can run profitable hisec missions that I don't even know how to respond to that.

This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.

Then why do you keep posting?
I refrained from posting in this thread for quite some time, thinking it would go away.

But lo and behold the same null sec propagandists keep hammering away.
I thought, what the hell, post some truths, and I can look back on them in a few months and shrug and say, well, I was right, again.

I figure your plan is to keep hammering away with your lies until the changes are announced, and say , "see, all our posting made CCP make game mechanic changes as they saw the light. "

But those summer changes have already been announced to the CSM, so this must be part of your propaganda campaign for the continuation of the high sec nerf with the winter changes.